Group Knives

Originally posted to the forum – research about kitchen knives for Company of the Staple by Richard.

I have been looking through various books and manuscripts in pursuit of images of kitchen and dining scenes. Sadly the desire to draw meticulously detailed pictures of kitchen and table implements seems to have been slightly lacking in the mind of the 14th century artist.

The best images I’ve been able to find are below, first prep/kitchen scenes, followed by dining scenes.

(A) – A Butcher / abattoir. Theatrum Sanitatis; Described only as “14th Century Italian”
(B) / (C) – Kitchen scenes from Luttrell Psalter; English, around 1320 – 1340.
(D) – Butchering Pigs; Late 15th century woodcut, 1490.

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(E) – Français 12399; French, 1379

(F) – La Bible historiale complétée – Genesis – Psalms; French, 1357

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The most notable difference in this small selection of drawings, is the shape of the blades; Those in the prep scenes are typically broad and rectangular, while knives at the dining table are more…. “knife shaped…?” This trend also exists in other drawings not shown. Of the knives described as “mid” and “late” 14th century in the Museum of London “Knives and Scabbards” book, the larger blades also tend to be more rectangular in profile, in contrast with the triangular and leaf shapes of the smaller ones. MOL also gives blades matching the profiles of those in (B) and (C).

Some pictures of 14-15th century knives that I found at http://larsdatter.com/cutlery.htm

So it does look like the rectangle knives are fairly common, with all the big knives in the below pictures looking like mini machetes.

http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/se … /170004194

http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/se … /170003359

Archeological find of an iron knife found in Shropshire

Jan 27, 2013: Lit the forge today. The blade is quite a bit shorter than planned because the steel cracked and had to be cut back. Still managed to salvage something serviceable though.

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Extant knife
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Reproduction blank

I intend to use Maple for the handle, as this is the second most common handle material in the 14thC MOL finds

 

The ones below are scale replicas of three of the “Late 14th C” finds documented in the “Museum of London; Knives and Scabbards” book.

From the top down, the originals are items 70, 72 and 76 in the MOL book.

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Museum of London finds

The original shapes of corroded blades were estimated by photo-copying the originals to full size, gluing the cut-out paper version to some manila and “filling out” a sensible blade profile. The resulting paper/manila template was then used as a guide while forging.

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